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VTLA / VV XVI / VE-XVI / VV-XX
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The VV-XVI or
"Victrola the Sixteenth" was 
the original internal-horn Victrola; introduced in 1906, it remained the 
company's premiere model for nearly 15 years. The XVI created a sensation when 
it first appeared at dealer showrooms, as the ungainly phonograph horn was now 
hidden inside the cabinet rather than being mounted on top 
of the machine. "Tone Doors" in the front allowed the user to control the sound 
volume, and the lid could be closed to lower the noise emanating from the vibrating soundbox and motor. Storage for record albums was 
provided in the bottom portion of the cabinet. Priced at a whopping $200.00 
(which equates to over $5,700.00 in today's money), it was intended for wealthy 
buyers who desired a 'state of the art' phonograph integrated into an elegant 
piece of furniture. 
The XVI cabinet underwent 
several design iterations during its lifespan; by the early 'teens, it became a top-seller for 
the company. Although it was always advertised as "Victrola the Sixteenth"
(VV-XVI), the metal identification tag used a "VTLA" designation during the early 
years of production.  More than 206,000 XVI/VTLA/XX machines were produced 
between 1906 and 1921. 
The internal horn design configuration was soon adopted by numerous lower-cost Victrola models; when Victor's patents began to expire in 1918, 
this concept was 
copied by virtually all competing phonograph companies.  Eliminating the 
large external horn from view made the "Victrola" a popular commodity for millions of homes 
around the world.  By the dawn of the 1920's, over 5,000,000 phonographs 
with this internal-horn design would be produced by Victor.
Since there were so many different cabinets and 'options' 
available for the VTLA/XVI model over the years, they will be split into chronological groupings. 
A detailed breakdown of serial number vs. year produced can be found at the 
bottom of the page.
 
 Iteration One: 
Flat-Top Pooley (1906-1907) with "VTLA" tag
The 
design of the "Victrola" began in 1904. A trial-run of this revolutionary design was 
approved for production in early 1906. At that time, the Victor Talking Machine Company did not 
have adequate woodworking facilities to produce full-size floor-model cabinets; 
their product line consisted only of small 'table-top' models with large 
external horns. The launch of this novel and expensive "Victrola" product was considered 
to be a risky proposition, so the company did not want to tool-up their limited 
(and overtaxed) production facilities to manufacture large wood cabinets without 
knowing how the public would accept the idea. To minimize their 
financial risks, they contracted with the Pooley Furniture Company of 
Philadelphia (who had plenty of production capacity to produce large cabinets) 
to manufacture a limited run of mahogany Victrola cabinets using Victor's 
recently-patented internal-horn design.  A batch of approximately 500 cabinets 
was ordered in the early summer of 1906. The completed cabinets were then 
shipped to Victor's factory, where the mechanical components from their best 
external-horn model, the
Victor VI, were installed. This included the well-regarded triple-spring 
motor and Exhibition Soundbox, with gold plated hardware. 
The new product then underwent a well-publicized launch to the 
buying public in August 1906, and was an immediate success. Even with a 
mind-bending price 
tag of $200.00 (at a time when the average annual income was $450.00, every early-production machine was sold by the end of the year. Victor quickly realized that it 
had a very profitable new product on its hands, and immediately ordered more 
cabinets from Pooley. In addition, they began tooling-up their own 
cabinet-making facilities to produce this product in their own plant. 
The early "Pooley" cabinets had an unusual curved top section, "L" shaped 
storage doors and a flat lid. Several minor hardware changes were made as 
production ramped-up. Early versions had a drawer to store needles and other 
small items. During the first few months of production, the crank eschuteon was 
moved slightly rearward, and the lid-holding hinge changed from an 'elbow' to a 
'ratchet' design. The flat-lid cabinet design (see
History of the Victrola) made access to the turntable rather inconvenient, 
as the user had to 'reach-down' into the opening to change records or needles.  
Production serialization of these early models began at '501', however, at least 
one prototype version has turned-up a lower serial number.
Production of this model continued into the summer of 1907, when the second 
iteration of the cabinet appeared. It is estimated that approximately 1,700 of 
these machines were produced. The last machine of this design that was produced 
was serial number 2198. 
 Iteration Two: 
Domed Lid Filigree Cabinet (1907-1909) "VTLA" tag
The 
great success of the "Pooley" models (above) prompted Victor to make some design 
improvements. The lid was modified into a domed-shape, allowing the motorboard 
to be moved upward in the cabinet, allowing easier access to the turntable and 
controls. The awkward lid support arm was improved, and a 'filigree' 
of circle-diamond trim around the top of the cabinet was added. Product demand 
remained very strong, and Victor continued to ramp-up large-cabinet production capabilities 
at their Camden plant. Since they 
were not yet capable of producing as many cabinets as were needed, the Pooley 
Furniture Company remained under contract during 1907 and into the early months 
of 1908 to manufacture these products in parallel with Victor. Pooley-built 
cabinets from this time period can be identified by either a tag or stenciling 
located inside the record storage area; Victor-built cabinets have no Pooley markings. A 
variety of new finishes were now being offered, including oak and special-order variations 
in some very exotic choices (see the FINISHES page for more information). 
By the spring of 1908, Victor's cabinet production had expanded such 
that the services of Pooley were no longer needed. 
An "A" suffix was later added to indicate minor changes to the motor. 
 Iteration Three: 
VV-XX Fancy Trim, Diagonal Pattern on Front Doors. (1908-1909) "VTLA" tag
The 
continuing success of the elegant and expensive early Victrolas prompted Victor 
to introduce an even more prestigious machine, advertised as the "VV-XX" 
or Victrola the Twentieth. Introduced in early 1908, 
these machines were basically an upgrade of the standard VTLA models, with the 
addition of premium veneers, a gracefully shaped lid, ornate carvings, and the 
application of optional gold 'gilding' on the trim.  These models sold for 
an incredible price of $300.00, which equates to over $8,600.00 in today's 
money. Interestingly, Victor did not include any type of model differentiator 
for this exclusive product on the stamped ID dataplates, which still read 
"VTLA". The only references to the "VV-XX" designation appears in published 
advertising and dealer brochures; therefore, serial numbers for the XX were intermixed 
with standard VTLA production machines. Based on surviving examples, VV-XX style 
machines begin to appear around serial number 4500 and run as high as 8655, but 
many standard VTLA machines also appear within this range.  
Production volumes for these models have been estimated at around 500 units. 
Ultimately, they were either priced too high for the marketplace or were 
perceived as being too gaudy, as sales never caught-on with wealthy buyers. 
After a $50.00 reduction in price, the VV-XX was quietly discontinued less than 
one year later. These rare machines are considered to be highly collectible 
today.  
 
Iteration Four: 
Domed Lid Filigree Cabinet (1909)  "XVI" tag
In 
the summer of 1909, around 
serial number 12600, the "VTLA" stamped dataplate was changed to reflect the advertised 
name of the product, the "VV-XVI" or "Victor-Victrola 
the Sixteenth". The cabinet remained unchanged from the previous 
VTLA design (above) for a few more months until the design was again updated. 
Approximately 11,500 'filigree' Victrolas were produced between 1907 and 1909, including those denoted 
as "VTLA" (above). These machines all have an "A" suffix after the serial 
number. 
 Iteration Five: 
L-Door Cabinet (1909-1912) "XVI" tag
By 
the summer of 1909, the new Victrola was selling at a tremendous pace and 
provided immense profit for the company. A new cabinet design was then 
introduced, which was larger than the previous model; the filigree trim was 
eliminated, and ornate hand-carved corner posts appeared. This update was also 
denoted by a "B" suffix after the serial number. Small continuing improvements to the motor and hardware were made, and these 
incremental changes were indicated by the inclusion of a "C" or "D" suffix on 
the dataplate. The "C" version utilized a
new turntable brake 
system, with a small 'tab' appearing under the platter which could be moved 
to the "brake" or "free" position (replacing the previous 'barrel brake' which 
had been used on all external horn Victors for years). The under-lid decal was also 
changed at the transition from "B" to "C" from "Victor-Victrola" to just "Victrola" (see decals 
page).
The crank position changed slightly with the "D" series.
Approximately 
47,000 of these machines were made between the summer of 1909 and the fall of 
1912, when yet another updated cabinet was introduced. 
As a side note, Victor began introducing lower-priced Victrola models 
incorporating the internal horn design to the buying public beginning in 1909. These new offerings 
made Victrolas affordable to just about everyone. Thus, the XVI was no longer 
the 'exclusive' machine that offered this inside-horn feature; yet it continued 
in its well-established position as the company's flagship model.  
 Iteration Six:  
Conventional Doors (1912-1914)  "XVI" tag 
In 
mid-1912, an entirely new cabinet style premiered. The overall size was again 
increased and the unusual "L-Doors" were eliminated, being replaced by 
conventional rectangular openings. The previous open-horn design was updated with 
the use of 'slats' at the horn opening, which were intended to improve the sound 
directivity. Extensive hand carvings were used on the corner posts. Suffix 
letters of "E", "F" or "G" were used to indicate minor changes and updates to 
the motor and hardware configurations.  The "F" series was the first 
Victrola to use the 'semi-automatic 
brake' system. Speed controls and locations also changed with these 
successive models. Approximately 40,000 XVI machines 
in this configuration were produced between 1912 and 1914. The most successful year for the VV-XVI was 
recorded in 1913, with over 21,000 units produced. The XVI would never again 
achieve that level of annual sales. 
 
Iteration Seven:  
Conventional Doors (1914-1920)  "XVI" tag 
	
In 
the final days of 1914, the XVI underwent a cost-cutting production change; the amount of 
hand-carved details on the corner posts were significantly reduced while the 
cabinet also became smaller. At the same time, the motor was improved via the 
use of a newly-designed and more powerful 4-spring motor, replacing the 
long-standing 3-spring design. These machines had an "H" suffix (or no suffix at 
all). The "Exhibition" soundbox was replaced with the new "Victrola No.2" 
soundbox late in 1917, and the tonearm diameter was increased. Approximately 
74,000 XVI models of this style were produced between 1914 and 1920. 
 
Iteration Eight:  
Conventional Doors (1920-1921)  "XVI" tag 
In 
the summer of 1920, Victrola sales were beginning to wane; phonographs had become quite commonplace in most homes, 
and were no longer considered a 'status symbol'. As a 
result, sales of the more expensive models (such as the VV-XVI) were the first 
ones to experience a significant decline. In response, the company updated the 
cabinet designs in an attempt to improve sales. While the mechanical elements 
remained about the same as the previous series, the styling was streamlined and 
modernized, particularly on the sweeping corner posts (which now featured 
minimal hand-carved details).  By this time, the price of the VV-XVI had 
risen to $250.00. These machines had no suffix letters on the dataplate.  
Approximately 14,700 models of this style were produced between 1920 and 1921. The XVI was officially 
discontinued one year later and was replaced by the VV-120, 
which was only a model ID change. The short-lived VV-120 was 
identical to the XVI in all respects. 
 
Electrola Models:  
Conventional Doors (1913-1921)  "VE-XVI" tag 
The 
XVI models were the first Victrolas to offer an optional electric motor, 
beginning in the fall of 1913; this was designated by a "VE" on the dataplate, 
and often had an additional plate attached showing the allowable operating 
voltage range. The electric motor was an expensive $50.00 option, and the motors 
would operate on either AC or DC power. This electric motor feature 
eliminated the need to hand-wind the motor between records. Since electric power 
was available only in a very limited number of homes at that time, sales of 
these models were initially slow; however, within 5 years, many more homes had 
electricity, and the VE machines became increasingly popular. VE models can 
always be identified by the presence of cooling vents in the back of the machine 
(left) which were placed there to allow heat dissipation from the 
voltage-dropping resistors mounted in the back of the cabinet, since these early 
motors operated at 32 volts. Approximately 15,500 VE-XVI machines were produced 
over the course of 8 years. Earliest versions had no lamp under the lid. After 
the VE-XVI Type A ("A" suffix after the serial number) was introduced in April 
1915, an automatic turntable light would turn on when the lid was opened. The 
last versions of this model utilized the larger Victrola No. 2 soundbox. The VE-XVI was officially discontinued one year 
later and was replaced by the VE-120, which was only a 
model ID change. The short-lived VE-120 was identical to the VE-XVI in all 
respects. When new, most owners had to use a lamp fixture (with a suitable plug 
adapter) to power the motor, as electrical power outlets did not come into 
common use until the 1920's.   Note: many sequences in serial numbers were skipped (not 
used) during production of the VE models.  
 
Optional 
Finishes:  
 
During 
its long production run, XVI models could be purchased in a variety of optional 
finishes, some costing hundreds of dollars above the list price of a standard 
model. The most commonly chosen extra-cost finish was walnut, which added $50.00 
to the list price. Initially, only Circassian Walnut was offered, but American 
Walnut also became available after 1918 (see the
finish pages for more information). 
Other extra-cost finish options included the "Vernis Martin" style ($400.00), 
with gold leaf covering the cabinet and hand-painted images (left) or 
even an exotic  "Moorish Marquetry" design (right) including silver and 
mother-of-pearl inlays ($750.00). Victor would produce almost any type of finish 
desired on a custom-order basis, and machines with exotic woods and exquisite 
paintings could be made per customer requirements. It should also be noted that 
many companies would provide aftermarket 'upgrades' to these machines, including 
paintings, special finish coatings and ornate designs. 
The survival database 
currently shows the earliest existent VV-XVI to be S/N 499 (a prototype) and the 
latest to be S/N 196887
The earliest logged VE-XVI survivor is S/N 501 and the latest is S/N 16064*
* Note: many sequences in serial numbers were 
skipped during "VE" production. Consequently, the highest s/n and total 
production output will not match for these models
| Manufacture Date | Approximate Serial Number Range | Feature Notes | 
| 1906 | 501-1000 | Flat-lid Pooley-built models. Actual starting s/n is unknown. | 
| 1907 | 1001-4500 | Domed lid introduced around S/N 2200 | 
| 1908 | 4501-8360 | XX model introduced around S/N 4500. XX models are interspersed with VTLA model serialization | 
| 1909 | 7873-17500 | VTLA designation dropped and "A" suffix added around S/N 12600. Carving under lid discontinued and "B" suffix added around S/N 13700. | 
| 1910 | 17501-31400 | C suffix added at S/N 17960 | 
| 1911 | 31401-52700 | D suffix added at S/N 43500 | 
| 1912 | 52701-67900 | New cabinet design and E suffix added at S/N 60727. | 
| 1913 | 67901-99400 | Semi-auto brake added at s/n 72076. Exposed speed indicator (on some examples) and "F" suffix added at S/N 84608. "G" suffix starts around s/n 88800. | 
| 1914 | 99401-107550 | All models with G suffix. Large glass speed control added at s/n 104300. | 
| 1915 | 107551-123250 | G suffix early. H suffix added at S/N 108200 | 
| 1916 | 123251-139200 | All models with H suffix. A few machines have been documented with an "XVI-A" model identification tag around s/n 137000. | 
| 1917 | 139201-154000 | Fat tone arm, small glass speed indicator added and serial number suffix letters dropped at S/N 143350. Victrola "No. 2" soundbox included late in year | 
| 1918 | 154101-164200 | |
| 1919 | 164201-174050 | |
| 1920 | 173600-191300 | |
| 1921 | 191301-197590 | |
| VE-XVI Electric | ||
| 1913 | 501-707 | |
| 1914 | 707-3000 | Possible that serial numbers between 3000 and 3100 were never used | 
| 1915 | 3100-?? | "A" suffix used after serial number 3101. S/N was 3101 produced in early 1915 | 
| 1916 | Unknown | S/N 5057 was produced in late 1916. S/N's 5101 through 8000 may have been skipped in production. | 
| 1917 | Unknown | S/N 10500 produced in 1917. Many groups of serial numbers were skipped in production. | 
| 1918 | Unknown | |
| 1919 | Unknown | |
| 1920 | Unknown | |
| 1921 | Unknown | Last documented survivor s/n is 16064 | 
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